police luger markings

The two-piece assembly can also be Police Luger ? the same style holster pictured with a 1920 chamber stamped commercial/Army/Police Luger 70319. is an identical holster in the collection, 1908/13 commercial/military/police, no chamber date Luger, serial number 69859. separate view of 69859 serialized in the hidden commercial style. It is fortunate that both books stayed together since 1921 and were acquired as a set, both signed by the original owner. - Kommando Wuertzburg, Kraftfahr-Sonderabteilung, It was procured from private stockWhat real difference would it make to the Heers WaA if they ordered a new holster or procured one from existing stock? Translated cover of The Police Pistols, Dresden manual. the center Police officer with a white colored belt. Collectors tend to err toward a variation 2 style ERMA made and marked muzzle protector that is, interestingly a different mechanical design than the above, variation 1 spring tension muzzle protector that attaches to the barrel with a one-step process by sliding, then rotating clockwise, over the barrel sight band/blade assembly, then released in detent, held in place by spring tension. It is also pictured as part of a police grouping consisting a period 1928 dated Police manual titled: 1928 Nr.7,1 Vorschrift fr die Waffenausbildung der Shutzpolizei or 1928 Nr.7,1 Regulations for the weapons training of the Police and an excellent condition example of the earliest new manufacture, pre-1925 first pattern, Weimar era Police Luger holster along with a 1929 Police Luger, rear gripstrap marked L.W.58 (Landjgerei Wiesbaden, weapon number 58) with original, unmodified magazine . the 19-172 text caption. The S.E.I. But there is a very great difference: Gestapo was German, working in enemy-country. Mauser or the Police HQ in Berlin? [11]. Pictured is a brown leather example with regulation holster body attached holster body spare magazine pouch with up-strap and cover flap keeper slit and steel stud closure. This example has all matching serial numbers. collar assembly to be aligned with forward main Prussian Police (Schutzpolizei), 1922. Poulin 2015 Auction, Bahnschutz holster, front view only, German military and police units, one can sometimes derive some 2 St 16 - item 16 of the 2nd patrol unit. The metal finish is in very good condition. This is German WWI Naval crown m marked on the left receiver. ad[1]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/Cash1.jpg'; These considerations must form the basis for the training of the police officer. 02-04-2013 08:55 PM by NoncomRetired. section slot then, 2) inserting "Jt" being the abbreviation for the Ingolstadt HZa. (communications training ad[5]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/wittmann.jpg'; 1920-1933: DWM Lugers. (113P) DWM 1920 Police Rework Luger Pistol . The Police Lugers: German Police Lugers and Their Markings 1918-1958 book is in very low demand now as the rank for the book is 5,705,216 at the moment. droop-wing eagle over WaA107 army inspection stamp located on the right side flat. Shown is an apparently cold police officer in front of a Weimar era Polizeiwache or Police Station with the final, second pattern design police holster. The word itself 'HIPO' is a shortening in German of HIlfs-POlizei (i.e. Die moisten sind veraltet: andererseits sind in neuerer Zeit so viele Vorschriften hinzugetommem, gass es fr den Unfnger schwer ift, das Richtige herauszufinden. institute for technology and transport. Genuine German Luger - Largest Variety of Lugers Offered. allow citizens to protect themselves from looters, armed gangs, and Pw.B. Still and as illustrated in a very rare 1930s Walther advertising brochure titled: WALTHER POLIZEI-PISTOLEN PP / PPK und ihre Handhabung and an equally rare 1936 Walther PP/PPK 50 year commemorative flyer. Mauser - Oberndorf, Germany&break;5. 19-130. The German purpose about HIPO was clear: To help Gestapo as a Danish helping-police. 2866 is pictured in two views, one with the Xs removed and the other enhanced, both with the intent of identifying the markings. Pictured for comparison are two different examples of Artillery holster cleaning rod pouch/sleeve brass studs with demonstrably different shapes and sizes or dimensions. It is interesting to note however that no pistols having a blank toggle and the 'v' suffix have been reported so far. RARE W.W.II GERMAN POLICE LUGER MAUSER HOLSTER - OTTO STUERTZ ALLENSTEIN. Pictured is a brown leather 1929 dated SCHAMBACH & Co. -BERLIN marked police holster with a Weimer era Sunburst K police inspection stamp; view 1. Mauser Sneak Police. Bavarian State Police (Landespolizei), 1930. Only two are identified in publications and only partial pictures. view 3. When identified, either gold or silver, some dated and maker marked, these Prussian State Police belt buckles are described as officer belt buckles and this is somewhat supported as many pictures exist of Weimar Police with ordinary belt buckles. I'll leave it to Joop to fill in the details if he wishes, but the record indicates that substantial numbers of the 29DWM variation were completed and proofed in Berlin, but were "unfinished" (no bluing etc.) $1,000. Pictured is an unknown maker German Police Other than the most notable features of the cut-back artillery holsters is the toe plug and the cleaning rod sleeve of these former artillery Luger holsters, none are the same, as there are other changes, such as method of carry, where Sturgess in TBLAP suggests, that with the lack of belt loops they were carried over the shoulder, somehow utilizing the rear attached leather stock block, although some examples have been modified to a single loop belt carry by rotating the Additionally, it seems incongruous that a 1920s post WW1 manufacture brass stud was added or replaced when clearly period correct brass studs were available as attested by the added brass stud, while the apparent goal was to modify the cleaning rod pouch/sleeve and cover flap to accommodate a Police cleaning rod as the lower replaced brass stud would clearly interfere with the insertion of a Police cleaning rod. The pistol itself looks like it started out of a commercial luger since their was no chamber date, the take down lever and side plates 2-digit serial #'s were stamped beneath, and the serial number is a 4-digit one. The following tables list the base forms for police unit marks found in German Small Arms Markings From Authentic Sources by J. Goertz and D. Bryans, Walsworth Publishing Co., Marceline MO, USA, 1997. Choose whether you want the sealed, opened box, or the marking stamp. Taming the SFAR: How Ruger's Small-Frame .308 Runs Suppressed. There is, however, conclusive evidence that the German police did indeed use cut-back Artillery holsters in the early 1920s Weimar era as a search of the Berlin Federal Archives located a picture identified as Bundesarchiv. When the holster enters military service, it is inspected and proofed. 1930s and beyond with a Weimar era made, seven ring wooden barrel handle cleaning rod, as mentioned, specifically made for use with police Lugers, 2866 is pictured in two views, one with the Xs removed and the other enhanced. And when new information comes out, sometimes "old" information is shown to be wrong. a 4-digit 1108 believed to be a Police P.08 serial number. In regard to Police manuals, this language change is first noted in a 1941 Police manual versus the apparent last use of the Fraktur font in a 1940 police manual. Zone railway police used an earlier, relatively obscure 7.65 m/m caliber, FN Model 1922 pistol. A first glance through the new evidence that became available to me does not change my opinion as stated above. The Police holster rear is stamped with the P.08 pistol issue number or serial number 1021. rural police groups: The Einwohnerwehr was a paramilitary police force formed by All Rights Reserved, Lugers! If the blank toggles are related to the Riff contract, they would have been manufactured in or before 1926. This is a standard 1934 Model gun designated by collectors as the '39 Mauser Police Banner that was ordered from Mauser for the Police use. III. 1703 marked muzzle protector attached to a P.08 barrel, which is part of a 4mm sub caliber training assembly, which could also be used as a stand-alone muzzle protector in conjunction with the new police cleaning rod with brass stopper. links[3]='http://www.marnamilitaria.com'; by Igorak89 07 May 2016, 13:15, Post The subject Police holster E/Mg10 stamping is recognized by collectors as authentic, based on three examples seen on WwMg/41 dated WW2 military issued P08 holsters. A rank of 1,000,000 means the last copy sold approximately a month ago. regulations issued in 1930, and are shown in the following table. No Longer Available. The military character and Heinrich Krieghoff - Suhl, Germany At least six pre-production Lugers are known to exist. Pictured is one such unique example. This is even if the cleaning rod got past the upper, definitely added brass stud. 3 days Left DWM 1906 SWISS POLICE LUGER SEMI-AUTO PISTOL. Below is continuing description of the second and final conversion. The conclusion being is that the modification, if indeed done for the reason described, was an ill-conceived, poorly thought out exercise that didnt work out, and that the special Police cleaning rod with added brass stopper, as stated by some Luger authors, was never intended to be carried in a cut-back Artillery to Police holster, with the subject holster being the sole published example so modified. Im Strasrecht haben ebensalls injngster Zeit z. L. erhebliche Umwlzungen stattgesunden. In the publication History Writ in Steel by Don Maus 2009, chapter 6, page 86, Figure 6-6 discusses and shows a similar marked, cut-back artillery holster, unfortunately, showing only the holster marking, not the holster, leaving the exact configuration of the holster unknown, thus making the subject, uniquely modified holster, the only known published example. These cut-back, modified/converted artillery LP.08 holsters are discussed in Weimar Lugers by J. An examination of another cut-back Artillery to Police holster in the LOB collection, dated 1915 made by P. Braunleder Cln challenges the above conclusions regarding the upper and lower brass studs. I think it's a P08 made by DWM ( Deutsche Waffen und Munitionsfabriken ). " -techn. Walsworth Publishing Co., Marceline, MO 64658 USA.]. The other marking is an inspection stamp, consisting of a crown over a 'fraktur,' or letter. The new Freistaat Preuen style eagle was adopted as the emblem of the Preuen Schutzpolizei, (Prussian Protection Police) and the Preuen Kommunalpolizei, (Prussian Local/Municipal Police) and was utilized on their belt buckles. 30. In fact, the majority of the pistols having a SN between 1v and 524v were produced and proofed in Berlin. All of this is conjecture of course but it stands up to close inspection. I. German Police Forces during the Weimar Era, [This information is lifted almost verbatim from Weimar and Early Pictured is another variation 1 style police S. B. WaA107 Schnellpressenfabrik Heidelberg 1939 a.k.a. Luger Identification Guide - Rework and non-DWM Lugers (1915-1945) This is one of a series of identification guides for small arms. ad[9]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/Cash3.jpg'; Included with the lot is a black leather flap holster (converted from Artillery to Police configuration, renumbered to match pistol, extensive hand . 5.6 (Cleaning Kit 34) pictured (Fig. The results cause us collectors no end of confusion, 78 years later. Pictured is an (officers) Upper Silesian "Landespolizei" buckle. The added cover flap leather keeper strip is correctly attached with single line stitching. German manufactured commercial holster, original pistol model unknown, as identified by ink stampings located on the inside cover flap, WALTHER POLIZEI-PISTOLEN PP / PPK und ihre Handhabung, an equally rare 1936 Walther PP/PPK 50 year commemorative flyer. Wissen ist Macht, das gilt fr jeden, der im ffentlichen Leben steht und vorwrstsstrebt, besonders aber fr die Polizeibeamten, da ihn sein Beruf tglich und stundlich in engste Berhrung mit der Bevlterung bringt. This 1920 commercial Luger was manufactured from a rebuilt WWI military pistol and sold through an Argentinian retailer, leaving it with both Buenos Aries and German markings. I have several lugers and Broomhandles with the "HZaJt18" marking on them. Prussian Eagle adorned clam shell device under the grip. Knowledge is power, this applies to everyone who is in public life and strives forwards, but especially for the police officers, because his job brings him into close contact with the population every hour. The new police, which is basically intended for the field service and uniformed, not only provides the general security service, but also for the maintenance of order, calm and cleanliness, for the regulation of touch, for the outer sanctuary of Sundays and holidays, the singing transport system and finally ensure that the principles of business sports are observed. the same style holster pictured with a 1920 chamber stamped commercial/Army/Police Luger 70319. Igorak89 Member Posts: 35 Joined: 03 Oct 2013, 10:01 Location: Serbia Re: Luger markings identification - help by Igorak89 07 May 2016, 13:07, Post Retains the original loops on the back for straps, no belt loops. Based on the wooden box style of the two examples, and the identical text font size and styles, that there are more of these cleaning kits with identical contents and that they are all, most likely made by the same German manufacturer. Interestingly, this example used the expected regulation police holster up-strap and stud closure. the ministry's Official Directory provides clear, concise and easy-to-understand information to the police officers about their own rights and duties and how they are to deal with the daily demands of the service. As always, I'm not responsible for any inaccuracies in the data, just for As to the luftamt I do not know, but the Army HZa's still equipped the Luftwaffe and Waffen SS, so it makes sense. Some of the Police guns are reported with DWM toggles; these do not appear in any recognizable pattern. 31. Note the non-standard vertical location of added metal belt buckle and strap/keeper cover flap holster, the subject cut-back artillery LP.08 holster to P.08 holster police marked, the bottom edge of the holster body inner liner, Pictured is a WW1 P08 army holster modified to a Police holster in the 1920s, whereas other identified, non-holster Hannover markings, such as Police P08s. Additionally, by restricting the insertion of the cleaning rod end, with affixed Reinigungsgdocht[6] or cleaning wick flush to the chamber face, prevents it from becoming detached, which could happen with a longer cleaning rod extending beyond the barrel/receiver chamber face. The first 1920s Weimar era police Luger holster of new manufacture to be recognized as such is not manufacture marked is a black dyed leather, full cover flap with a holster body attached, pear-shaped up-strap secured to the cover flap without a keeper via the leather slit and brass stud method. Lugers! But when Nazi party came to power, and started preparation. Apparently, there are other, period German Police Luger wooden box cleaning kits, another example being REINIGUNGSGERTFR PISTOLE = POLIZEI BADEN = although it is not clear as to the date of manufacture is pre or post 1945 as the state of Baden existed prior to 1945 and it wasnt until 1946 that the state of Wurternberg-Baden was formed. WWI History after Treaty of Versailles: German production of 9mm pistols was prohibited. The frame tells us that it was an artillery (200mm barrel) and has had the barrel replaced by Simson & Co., the only one authorized to build Lugers after the great war by the treaty of Versailles. This is one heck of an obscure way to do it! K.W.K. The Treaty of Versailles (through the IMKK) restricted the size of Weimar Still. For more detailed information on the 1946 Dresden Police manual. My reference book (The Standard Catalog of Luger by Aarron Davis, page 103) shows the eagle with PTV over it. indicating issue to the Railway Police in Halle. Spain controlled two small mountainous sections of Northern Morocco that were separated by a bay. Also, the same holster is pictured with a 1908/13 five-digit s/n commercial-military-police Luger. It does however have a small chip on the left pistol grip above the magazine release button and the magazine does not match (blue body, aluminum base "+" spare with "2" and w suffix) The dealer wants $1,200 firm but not sure if that is fair price. Another NAZI era example being the Walther PP and PPK pistols pictured in Axis Pistols 1986 by J. pistols were rejected at the acceptance procedure it would explain that these were replaced with some pistols in the v block. Eagle over 83 is the marking for the responsable acceptance office for Mauser (WaA83). German Police Lugers and their markings 1918-1958 by Edward B. Tinker and Dwight Gruber; 2012 45aand 9mm Luger Caliber. 19-105, formally of the Dr. G.L. Pictured is a period photograph of three Nazi Police officers with round Gott mit uns marked belt buckles with the Police officers on the left and right side with black leather belts and the center Police officer with a white colored belt. Featured is a WW2 police style holster marked WaAJL16 on the rear between the bell loops along with a 4-digit 1108 believed to be a Police P.08 serial number. Knowing that, and having the history of the P.08 police Luger pistol, serial number 9140e is stamped on the back as well. 03-16-2021 11:59 AM by mrerick. Der herausgeber. or Landjgerei Schleswig; view 1, view 2 and view 3. This gives him the inner support, the calm appearance in the deficiency, the sure success and thus an increased enthusiasm and love for the profession. Note: Black scabbard & frog is city. Many combinations of eagles and numbers are noted. Article modified: Sunday, 7 July 2019. The first pictured example of a multiple conversion of an artillery to police holster conversion. Open Fullscreen Lot 3320: DWM Blank Chamber Police Luger Rig with Prussian Unit Markings Mauser Blank Chamber 1933 Police Sneak Luger Semi-Automatic Pistol Rig with Unit Markings, 1933 Dated Police Holster, and Extra Magazine Auction Date: December 11, 2022 Estimated Price: $ 2,000 - $ 3,000 Price Realized: Details Payment Terms Shipping Thus, unit marks give one some history about the items on which The last numbers on the line indicate the item number of the item that was The variation 1 police marked 4mm sub caliber muzzle protector that can be installed in a single step seems more practical for use with the police cleaning rod. Goertz and D. Bryans, Walsworth Publishing Co., Marceline MO, USA, 1997. This holster was used in the NAZI era as indicated by the holster body Eagle/Swastika stamp. centered in the federal states of Prussia, Bavaria, Baden, Wuerttemberg, The base forms of the unit marks for this police force are contained in 4 days Left WW2 ERA GERMAN POLICE LUGER HOLSTER RIG $200. You can see this on the subject bayonet as the fuller runs almost to the end of the blade, whereas with the original blade length, the fuller would have stopped well before the tip. What unit markings are on the pistol? Mfg Part Number. rotating clockwise the short collar section, about 270 degrees by 1) rotating the threaded, knurled N.b.5. Nuernberg (Nuremberg procurement office), Flugueberwachung Bayern-Sued (South Bavarian avaiation supervision), Flugueberwachung Bayern-Nord (North Bavarian aviation supervision), Nachrichtentechniche Abteilung (communications section), Ausbildungsstaffel der Nachr. There is no Police tool in the holster. German: German Mfg. 5. The lower attachment of the left belt loop has been crudely reinforced with wire, probably while in service. 1928 (Undated) "Riff" Berlin Mauser Rig (Police) SOLD. Sticky: Book Review History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings. The 2008 discussions were all over the map with collectors stating that the WOL Costanzo comments were incorrect, disputing the WaAJL16 stamp as incorrectly interpreted by Costanzo as being WaAJt16. JavaScript is disabled. 355. Stay in the know. The base forms of the unit marks for this police force are contained in Reportedly next to the remaining lot of 2,760 of these readied blank toggle pistols also a small quantity of unmarked toggles came from Berlin to Oberndorf. One heck of an obscure way to do it style holster police luger markings with a five-digit! Detailed information on the left belt loop has been crudely reinforced with wire, probably in... By DWM ( Deutsche Waffen und Munitionsfabriken ). 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